I completely agree with the “do whatever works for you” mentality. Of course I’m not in any position to understand your daily struggles. That fact may make my opinion completely moot.

Nope, not at all. There’s few “one size fits all” designs for living.

Life style long johns so to speak”.

Haha! Exactly. 😊

There is a lot of introspection

Introspect is one of my favorite things 😉

“…some obscure recovery law…”

that sums up too much of what i thought of “the program”

back to the topic.
it’s been so long since i commented on what the speaker led the meeting with…

i never understood anyone who insisted the steps or the program had to be “worked” a certain way. some of it would logically follow the rest, but i always felt like the minute you were serious about staying sober you had worked steps 1, 2 and 3. and every time you kept sober and sane after that you were working the rest of the steps.

the “staying sane” part was especially hard for me. i could “not drink” with the best of them but i could “make crazy” better than most. my own harshest critic. other people in the program were candidates for the loony bin as far as i could tell but i was only in charge of my own behavior. i have behaved every bit as dishonorable stark raving sober as i ever did when i was drunk.

You’ve also behaved every bit as honorable as the best spiritually enlightened person I know.

First 3 get us sober. Last 3 keep us sober. But the quality of our sobriety depends on the how well we work the ones in-between.

me too. you can fly whatever flag you want but “time and place”. the “Illinois Nazis” featured in The Blues Brothers were based on a real event. These jackhammers wanted to march. They wanted to march in a heavily Jewish neighborhood. My arrogant opinion is that they didn’t really want to march; they wanted to provoke and be protected while they did so.

Yes. Trump Tower.

Late Feb or Early March, ‘05

I heard the news today.
HST killed himself.
Very shortly afterward, Trudeau’s strip gave it to us in INK.
I’ll never forget asking ELO if it was funny.
Her reply?
Would Hunter laugh?

Like a drunk chimp on acid.
:)

So I googled “drunk chimp on acid” and this was one of the first results…

“Andrew Haynes kicks off 2010’s Christmas miscellany with reports of rampant reindeer, sozzled starlings and junkie monkeys, and a look at how goats seem to be the cause of many of man’s sins”

http://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/opinion/comment/the-animal-world-has-its-junkies-too/11052360.article

Every Damn Thing.

Years of alcohol abuse alongside copious amounts of medications, initially for arthritic pain and later insomnia, took their toll on His health. A series of car accidents only exacerbated His addictions and He eventually underwent a series of surgeries for a stomach ulcer in 1959. Coupled with a deteriorating liver and the need for a blood transfusion, by 1962 He had lost a significant amount of weight, reaching a low of 30 kg (66 pounds). Drifting in and out of consciousness for several months, He died at age 47 at His villa in Plascassier (Grasse), on the French Riviera, on 10 October 1963, the day before filmmaker and friend Jean Cocteau died.
His last words were “Every damn thing you do in this life, you have to pay for.

Thorazine? You don’t need no Thorazine!